Oli Green and I wargame the period using adapted rules and army listings from Lion Rampant for which we have split longbowmen into two categories;
UNIT NAME
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Garrison Longbowmen
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POINTS
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5
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Attack
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7+
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Attack Value
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5+
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Move
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6+
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Defence Value
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5+
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Shoot
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5+
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Shoot Value / Range
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5+ / 18”
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Courage
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4+
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Maximum movement
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6”
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Armour
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2
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Special Rules
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Longbow*
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UNIT NAME
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Shire Longbowmen
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POINTS
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4
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Attack
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7+
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Attack Value
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6+
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Move
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6+
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Defence Value
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5+
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Shoot
|
6+
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Shoot Value / Range
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5+ / 18”
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Courage
|
4+
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Maximum movement
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6”
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Armour
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2
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Special Rules
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These troop types often feature side by side in most of our games but up until now my collection only featured men in livery coats with no obvious difference which can occasionally cause confusion.
In the early sixteenth century Tudor armies were built around a core of infantry armed with bow and bill. Their organisation in principle did not differ that much from the late fifteenth century in that they were either paid professional soldiers or men from county militias liable for military service.
Garrison Longbowmen
Shire Longbowmen
The former category represents men who could be found in the garrisons of the Calais pale as well as at Berwick and some of the border fortresses. The latter represents those raised on a short term basis in time of conflict and/or for local defence.
The rules were lifted with a minor alteration from Lion Rampant. In early testing we found that expert archers shooting on a 4+ did not represent what archers were becoming in the period so we decided to reflect their better experience and ability by removing the -1 consideration at long range.
My main focus when creating the unit was to make the figures visibly different and slightly less equipped in appearance. I did this by representing most without armour and all without livery. I also made the decision not to have them with a banner or commander to make them a bit more versatile. In this way they could be used as English, Rebels, Lowland Scots and potentially French or Breton troops
Most were converted by sculpting coats on to Perry WOTR figures as per this example from a previous unit;
An easier conversion can be achieved by using the Tudor Dollies from Steel Fist Miniatures with Perry arms to which you can add sculpted sleeves but you can also saw off and swap the legs which achieves futher variety.
Tudor dollies with Perry arms and heads, the two on the right have leg swaps
Converted Perry figures
Brigandines and padded Jacks were still in use in this period and with suitable heads these Perry WOTR figures make for convincing early Tudors.
Perry figures with Tudor heads (the one in the middle is a Swiss head with cap added)
The completed unit
From a visual perspective they also make for quite a convincing larger body when intermingled with figures in livery. Here's a couple of mock ups somewhere in the borders;
a mixed host of archers
Lord Stanley's retinue
I painted the figures in muted colours to reflect typical common clothing at the time;
- Coats and jackets were principally tawny, black, grey and 'sheep colour'.
- Hose was predominantly undyed or to a lesser extent tawny or scarlet.
- Caps are most often depicted as black.
I found Tawny to be a bit of a challenge, it's a brownish orange but it took a couple of attempts to get it to look right.
For more information on this subject I thoroughly recommend The King's Servants book by The Tudor Tailor, it's a good source for an understanding of how Tudor men were dressed at the start of the 16c
I've really enjoyed putting this unit together, it's most definitely been a welcome distraction. I particularly enjoyed reading about typical clothing and interpreting that through working with a muted palette.
While the mood takes me it seems a natural progression to do some Shire bill in a similar fashion. I think I'd quite like to do a similarly attired command to go with them as well. The relative versatility of the unit and doing these border set ups also has me rather tempted to do one with a Scots banner, we'll just have to see.
I hope you like them
I hope you like them
Bye for now and take care
Stuart
Stuart
Yet again another fantastic looking unit full of lovely conversions:)
ReplyDeleteExcellent work sir!
ReplyDeleteThey look very cool. Always a good idea to have some distention factor between the Levy and Professional troops on the table top.
ReplyDeleteThanks very much, i'm really pleased with how they look
DeleteInspiring figures and post. Could you tell us a little more of your Lion Rampant adaptions for the period?
ReplyDeleteThanks very much. We use the rules from Lion Rampant along with bespoke army listings and adaptations for pike, mounted archers, arquebusiers and artillery. I'd be happy to send you these via email if you like.
DeleteCutting in here, I would also like a copy. I seemed to have lost my copy when I change computers.
DeleteNo problem, drop me an email and i'll respond with them
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DeleteThey look lovely Stuart...
ReplyDeleteYou’ve managed the subdued tones nicely... without making them dull.
All the best. Aly
Cracking stuff, the conversions look top notch. I confess to especially liking the garrison archers with their understated livery. The colour palette works really well. It's almost tempting me to try out a few conversions, but I confess I don't find the Tudors very inspiring.
ReplyDeleteGreat work on these Stuart, I love the fact that they are so specifically early 16th century yet would suit a variety of armies of the period. I can certainly see more border clashes in the future using these figures.
ReplyDeleteLovely understated levy bowmen, great conversions and super painting!
ReplyDeleteBest Iain
Splendid work Stuart - not the most colourful unit that you've done, but I reckon it'll be one that you end up gaming with a lot!
ReplyDeleteSimon.
PS - on closer inspection, I think the casualty marker could just be resting and snoring loudly!!!
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ReplyDeleteExcellent paintjob and conversions (as usual) !!
I am impressed by this huge project !!!
Nikkoburges
beautiful work and really nice conversions, as always. do you know if the fashion of the coats of the time was in use Also in contimente? I took some of the busts you sculpted but I don't have a Tudor army and I would like to use them in the armies of the wars of Italy.
ReplyDeleteThanks very much. The French wore coats yes, have a look at my blog post of May 2019 for more, it's entitled 'French franc archer infantry'
DeleteHi Stuart I looked for the number of Ilustred wargames but I didn't find it so you could send me the adaptations for Lion rampant on the Renaissance. Thank you
ReplyDeleteHi there, yep no probs just send me an email and I’ll reply with them
DeleteExcellent and admirable work!
ReplyDeleteExcellent and admirable work!
ReplyDeleteExcellent and admirable work!
ReplyDeleteExcellent and admirable work!
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